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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:40:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, just released a letter copping to and essentially declassifying the program.
No worries though -- he says there's a secret court that protects us and we can trust the government not to abuse the power.
And he said the whistleblower is a real douchebag for telling us.
Phew!
I feel better now.
SCANDAL. OVER.
I just have to say that governments were initially created as the common man can not be trusted either. Just saying. The problems we have with government are just large and obvious examples of the inherent flaws of the human condition. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:50:00 -
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Espionage, spying, hostile takeovers, murder.... Have been 'acceptable' tactics in every form of government since the beginning of organized society. So what makes people think our current government and Multi-National Companies would do any different?
If you don't like the tracking remove yourself from the grid because technology will not be hindered and those in power will utilize it to further their own ends. To think otherwise is naive at best.
Fake Edit: I do not personally condone it, but I am also not going to sit here and act like the above mentioned tactics have not been tolerated by the worlds populations for centuries. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.12 22:27:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:If he came to France he would probably be given a medal for services to the public interest. The thing that makes me worried is that running around in their nappies somewhere is the next Prime Minister or President in 40 years. How much blackmail material could the NSA build on them if they wanted to with this kind of a system, assume we'll have voice recognition software to go back through recorded conversations and mine that. Hope Hong Kong sticks to their guns and keeps him safe. Also Shia LaBeouf in 2008. Wow.
'They' have been monitoring us forever.
US Librarians See 'Big Brother' Monitoring - January 25, 2003 - AP What is really funny, the Movie Se7en brought up that this has been done for decades and that movie was released in 1995
I know I have been monitored. And I am pretty sure I am on a 'list'. I have been pulled to the side, frisked, searched, and hassled every time I have flown since well before 911. I will say since about 1998. Interesting as that is about the time I used the internet to look up the Anarchist's Cookbook. Dooh!
EDIT: It does not help that during the winter I look like a skinhead and during the summer I look like I come straight out of somewhere in the realm of Eastern Europe/Middle East/West Asia |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:18:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote: Now seems as good a time as any to don the tinfoil hat and wonder if this type of mass surveillance has ever been used to persuade powerful people to go along with bad ideas.
Machiavelli outlined this centuries ago in his letter to a close friends son in the text The Prince. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:25:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:I find it sad and slightly amusing that Americans outrage at certain things, and then just end up shrugging it off saying "hey they've done worse" or "this has been going on for year now its official so what"
being stripped of all of your privacy slowly but surly for the past 100 years, seems ot have gone a bit nuts in the past 10 years thanks to evil computers and dah internetz
I am not sure where you get this. Most of the outrage is about the guy leaking the facts that show that the US does use espionage to get things done, not that the US actually utilizes espionage.
What you see in this thread is that many are debating if it is feasible to stop it.... which it is not because it is part of the system no matter the government which is in question. |
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